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JOrnitho: Hello! I'm back with ideas for some new species for South America. I found in my computer an archive with some ideas for fauna and flora that I had some time ago and decided to show there to ask your opinion about them. The first is about a descendant of the domestic chicken. [more]Copper jacumitan (Jacumita cuprinus) During the Holocene, the man introduced many species in other continents. The jacumitan is a descendant of domestic chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus) that are introduced in South America. It replaced the birds in the family Cracidae, which are extinct in the Neocene, in some areas. In a matter of fact, the name jacumitan is the junction of the words jacu, the popular name in Brazil for guans of the Genus Penelope, and the tupi word mitã (mitan) that means new, this way the name means “new guan”. The copper jacumitan is the type species of this genus and lives in the savannas and woodlands of Central South America. The copper jacumitan is sexually dysmorphic. The male measure 190 cm, due to the long tail, it has a bright coppery brown upperbody plumage and reddish-brown feathers below. They also have metallic dark green feathers on the tail and wings. Only males have a bright red naked skin on the face, with two wattles that conceal the sides of its head. This characteristic is shared by all males of the genus Jacumita. The males of the genus also have crests formed by white feathers with black tips. During courtship and panic moments, they rise the crests. The females have 75 cm of length and are cryptic brown and adapted to camouflage, its naked skin on the face is pale pink and don’t have flesh wattles. The young males are similar to the females until they reach 9 weeks, at this time the wattle begin to develop. Both sexes have long orange colored legs and grey beak. The males have spurs that they use in fights for dominance. The neck is long and slim. Copper jacumitans can fly, but prefer to run from the predators flying only as last resort. These birds are omnivorous and feed on insects, seeds, and fruits. Its forage for food by scratching the ground, usually near herbivores this way there is other animals observing for the presence of predators. Often the male sits on a high perch, to serve as a lookout for his group. He sounds an alarm call if predators are nearby. At night it will sleep perched on branches. Copper jacumitans are polygamous; the male will have a harem with 5 to 12 females and will guards the area where his females are nesting, and attack other males that enter his territory. To initiate courting, the males will dance in a circle around or near a female, raising their crests and lowering the wing which is closest to the hen. Then, he will vocalize and when she responds to his call, the male will mount her and proceed with the mating. The females make their nest in the ground, laying 6 to 14 red eggs which are incubated for 22 days. Chicks are precocious, leaving the nest shortly they are born. They fledge in about 4 to 5 weeks, and at 13 weeks old are chased out of the group by their mother, at which point the young males start to form a harem and the females join an existing one. Sexual maturity is reached at 6 months and the lifespan of this species is of 13 years, however is common for males to die early due to predation. Other species in the genus Jacumita are: Golden jacumitan (Jacumita aurea) Living in the forests of the Atlantic coast of South America, the males of this species has 200 cm of length, from beak to tail, while the females have 83 cm. The plumage of the male have a bright golden-yellow plumage in the upperparts, being scarlet in the chest and belly. They have dark metallic green wing feathers and tail while the female is cryptic brown. Red jacumitan (Jacumita amazonica) Living in the "terra firme" forests of the Amazon , the males of this species has 185 cm of length, from beak to tail, while females have 70 cm. The plumage of male is bright orange-red in the upperparts, while their chest and belly is yellow. The males also have dark metallic blue wing feathers and tail while the female is cryptic brown. Andean jacumitan (Jacumita andina) Living in the highland forests in the slopes of the Andes, the males of this species has 170 cm of length, from beak to tail, while females have 68 cm. The plumage of the males is white in the upperparts and yellowish-red in the belly and chest. The males also have dark metallic blue wing feathers and tail while the female is cryptic brown. This other one is about a descendant of the californian quail: Common austral grouse (Tetraoinus australis) During the Holocene, the man introduced many exotic species different habitats, the ancestor of the austral grouse was one of these species. Their ancestor was not a true grouse, but the Californian quail, due to evolutionary convergence they acquired characteristics similar to the true grouses of North America. Living in the forests of Southern South America, the male austral grouse are 55 cm long and the female have 44 cm of length. The male have a dark grey body plumage, black-and-white bridled head pattern, black back and a greyish-blue belly. They have a curving crest or plume, made of six feathers that droops forward (long and black in males /short and brown in females) and long forked blackish tail with white undertail coverts. Females and immature birds are mainly greyish-brown with a light-brown belly. Both sexes have a black bill and relatively long grey legs. Their diet consists mainly of seeds and leaves, but they also eat some berries and insects. In some regions their main source of food are the seeds of trees of the Genus Araucaria. These birds are not elegant fliers, however they sleep perched in branches. Given a choice, they will normally escape on foot. During the courtship, the male austral grouse do displays on a lek, each male have a “personal space”. The males strut around their chose space, doing a display. The display consists of the male posturing himself with the head near the ground. Then, they start to move it from right to left showing their crests, simultaneously they raising the tail feathers, showing their withe undertail coverts. After that, they will raise their heads abruptly and whilst make a highly distinctive mating call. When another male invade the personal space of other, a fight happens, in this case the male will try to take of the crest of the rival, this way they will not be capable to display for the females. The female usually lays approximately 12 spotted eggs. The nest is a shallow scrape lined with vegetation on the ground. Incubation lasts from 21–25 days, usually performed by the female and rarely by the male. The chicks are precocial, leaving the nest with their parents within hours of hatching. The male stay with the female until the young leave, with 3 months. The young reach sexual maturity with 1 year, with this age the young males acquire the coloration of an adult male. Their lifespan is of 27 years. In the forests of Tierra del Fuego another species lives, the Black boreal grouse (Tetraoinus nigrus). Their main difference to the other species is that the males have an all-black plumage, with only a faint shade of blue in the chest and brown undertail coverts. The females are similar to that of the common austral grouse. The males have 52 cm and the females 41 cm.[/more] I also have in this archive some names for possible species that I never developed bayond some few facts. Maybe someone could help me make their descriptions.

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wovoka: JOrnitho, I describe the Mureru (waterlily) for the chapter about Catatumbo river. https://sivatherium.borda.ru/?1-2-1691696963283-00000028-000-10001-0#024 Description as always in Russian. Check please is everything matches your descriptions of the creatures written for this chapter, especially the description of Cyculi.

JOrnitho: wovoka ïèøåò: Ornitho, I describe the Mureru (waterlily) for the chapter about Catatumbo river. https://sivatherium.borda.ru/?1-2-1691696963283-00000028-000-10001-0#024 Description as always in Russian. Check please is everything matches your descriptions of the creatures written for this chapter, especially the description of Cyculi. Good description! It matches what we had discussed before.

JOrnitho: wovoka ïèøåò: We were talking about: 1. the biggest Andean bear-like mongoose (hunts giant boas, very long poisonous snakes, huge tegus, although it can even sometimes hunt young and very old deers). 2. Hyena-like mongoose in some South American desert, eat can be saber-toothed eating armadillo and also big snakes and tegus. 3. Karumboi (in tapiete - he eats snake) mongoose from Marvelous Forest. He would be not like real mongoose, he would be like Galidia elegans (also red, but not only with a striped tail, but with a completely striped body, only with ginger head). 4. Mouse-sized mongooses from Marvelous forest: one smaller ticks and small spiders eating and one bigger eating little scorpions, centipedes and poison dart frogs. Names: A. Sanguya-aguara; B. Urare-aguara (Sanguya-aguara - (in tupi "sanguya" (correctly writing sanguja, but spelling Sanguya, in tapiete just anguya) means any myomorphs, aguara - means racoon) - so the name will translate mouse-racoon - this will be name of smaller mongoose; Urare-aguara - (in tupi "urare" means animal from the family Echimyidae) - this will be name of bigger mongoose) 5. Kuatirana-aguara (kuatirana - squirell in guarani, aguara - racoon in tupi) in Marvelous forest - Squirrel honey&nectar-eating mongoose. (His relative lemur-mongoose (mongoose looking like lemur, with lemur way of life and diet: absolutely herbivorous, eating fruits, berries, leaves, edible roots, may be nuts and mushrooms. I'll describe him for the chapter about jaguape). Do you mind also describing the 1 and 2? I think that you would have a better idea to where settle them. I'll remove the golden mongoose that I described and make a description for the Karumboi. The two would compete for the same resources, so one needs to go. Also we can settle somewhere: 1. weasel like mongoose, eating birds and their eggs on trees;0000 2. mongoose like Liberiictis kuhni with long nose eating earthworms; 3. mongoose with pig nose like Arctonyx collaris eating leeches, poisonous frogs and so on; 4. mongoose like kusimanse - although eating not termites but Bumble Bees and social earth wasps like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agelaia_pallipes The first one could be larger, being a predator of monkeys.


wovoka: JOrnitho ïèøåò: The first one could be larger, being a predator of monkeys. It can be two species: bigger - monkey hunting, lesser - birds and squirrel hunting. But what will be with Ipochereu? JOrnitho ïèøåò: I think that you would have a better idea to where settle them. Well Euphractus sexcinctus - like big armored boar I wanted to settle to Brejos de Altitude, there I also wanted to settle the biggest boa from Epicrates assisi and the biggest venomous snake of neocene from Lachesis muta and very big tegu. There we can settle bear like mongoose who will hunt them all. Jackal sized saber-toothed opossum hunting armadillos and also snakes and tegus we can settle in Cerrado. Hyena like mongoose who will hunt snakes and will be scavenger we can settle in Argentinian deserts: Patagonian desert and Monte Desert.

JOrnitho: wovoka ïèøåò: It can be two species: bigger - monkey hunting, lesser - birds and squirrel hunting. But what will be with Ipochereu? This is why I think that the mongoose should remain in the ground, while opossums should dominate the trees. Well Euphractus sexcinctus - like big armored boar I wanted to settle to Brejos de Altitude, there I also wanted to settle the biggest boa from Epicrates assisi and the biggest venomous snake of neocene from Lachesis muta and very big tegu. There we can settle bear like mongoose who will hunt them all. Jackal sized saber-toothed opossum hunting armadillos and also snakes and tegus we can settle in Cerrado. Hyena like mongoose who will hunt snakes and will be scavenger we can settle in Argentinian deserts: Patagonian desert and Monte Desert. Now I remember these ideas. I'll work on these descriptions, but this month I'll be busy so they'll take some time to be finished.

wovoka: I also will be busy this month. JOrnitho ïèøåò: This is why I think that the mongoose should remain in the ground, while opossums should dominate the trees. But I like the idea if monkey eating mongoose, we could use such animal in the chapter aboue South Panama about brotherhood of monkeys. May be he will live ii will live only in forests of South Panama and Columbia?

wovoka: JOrnitho, may I ask you to describe, when yo have some time, also a lemur-mongoose for the chapter about jaguape in Amazonian region (it'll be mongoose looking like lemur, with lemur way of life and diet: absolutely herbivorous, eating fruits, berries, leaves, edible roots, may be nuts and mushrooms, it will predominantly lead an arboreal lifestyle. Taking into account that Urva javanica that was untroduced to Caribbean islands is omnivorous, so its descender can become herbivourus. It will be like in the same time the opposite and the analogue of Madagascar Eulemur mongoz - mongoose lemur. It will be with a fluffy tail that helps it maintain balance while moving through trees. It could also be capable of jumping between branches. He will look absolutely the same as his Madagascar analogue The same color, the same shape of body. His length will be 31 to 45 cm, tail length is 45 to 65 cm. Males bigger and darker. The main enemy Ipochereu. We will give him name in urarina language etoe-unee (etoe - Aotus nigriceps, ʉnee - Bassaricyon alleni).

JOrnitho: wovoka ïèøåò: But I like the idea if monkey eating mongoose, we could use such animal in the chapter aboue South Panama about brotherhood of monkeys. May be he will live ii will live only in forests of South Panama and Columbia? Good idea. It could have some characteristics of the fossa and of ocelot/margay. ïèøåò: JOrnitho, may I ask you to describe, when yo have some time, also a lemur-mongoose for the chapter about jaguape in Amazonian region (it'll be mongoose looking like lemur, with lemur way of life and diet: absolutely herbivorous, eating fruits, berries, leaves, edible roots, may be nuts and mushrooms, it will predominantly lead an arboreal lifestyle. Taking into account that Urva javanica that was untroduced to Caribbean islands is omnivorous, so its descender can become herbivourus. It will be like in the same time the opposite and the analogue of Madagascar Eulemur mongoz - mongoose lemur. It will be with a fluffy tail that helps it maintain balance while moving through trees. It could also be capable of jumping between branches. He will look absolutely the same as his Madagascar analogue The same color, the same shape of body. His length will be 31 to 45 cm, tail length is 45 to 65 cm. Males bigger and darker. The main enemy Ipochereu. We will give him name in urarina language etoe-unee (etoe - Aotus nigriceps, ʉnee - Bassaricyon alleni). Ok, but I think that it hands and feet would be more like those of a procyonid, being a bit primate-like.

wovoka: JOrnitho ïèøåò: Good idea. It could have some characteristics of the fossa and of ocelot/margay. Yes! I agree! JOrnitho ïèøåò: Ok, but I think that it hands and feet would be more like those of a procyonid, being a bit primate-like. Yes! I also agree!

wovoka: JOrnitho ïèøåò: Good description! It matches what we had discussed before. There is the fruit turned out to be 10 cm in diameter. Can our bird gardener swallow it?

JOrnitho: wovoka ïèøåò: There is the fruit turned out to be 10 cm in diameter. Can our bird gardener swall Hmm, now I'm not sure. It have 30 to 35 cm of length. Do you think that they can swallow it?

wovoka: Well, firstly, we can make the bird larger, by 10-30 centimeters. Secondly, the same heron with its thin neck can even swallow a small turtle. We can also make it so that our bird can expand its throat, esophagus and stomach so that it can swallow such large fruits.

JOrnitho: wovoka ïèøåò: Well, firstly, we can make the bird larger, by 10-30 centimeters. Secondly, the same heron with its thin neck can even swallow a small turtle. We can also make it so that our bird can expand its throat, esophagus and stomach so that it can swallow such large fruits. Agreed. I'll make the edits in the description later.

JOrnitho: FInished more two mongooses: Karumboi (Karumboi serpentophagus) Order:Carnivora Family:Hespertidae Habitat:Lowland and montane forests of the Atlantic coast of South America. During the entire Holocene, the introduction of animals by humans in habitats that weren’t their own was a common practice. The small Indian mongoose (Urva auropunctata) was introduced by the humans in the Caribbean island of Trinidad and in Surinam, French Guiana and Guyana in South America. This species proved to be well adapted for these areas and thrived. During the Neocene, the South American population had not only spread through the tropical areas of the continent, but had also generated a new subfamily, the Austrohespertinae, the South American mongooses. In the Atlantic forest of South America, the karumboi appeared. In the Tapiete language, its name means “he eats snakes”. This name is very meaningful, since its diet is composed mostly of venomous serpents. Like many mongooses, the karumboi had developed resistance to their venom. The karumboi is a large mongoose, with 55 cm of body length and a tail with 45 cm of length. Its body is long and slender, and the rounded head has a pointed snout. The upperparts of the body are a dark red color, while the belly is light buff. It's covered in black strips. Their long tail is also dark red, black rings. This species is a predator of serpents. They primarily achieve this through tiring the snake out, by enticing it to make multiple strikes which it acrobatically avoids. Secondary protection against the venomous bite includes the stiff rigid hair, which is excited at such times, the thick loose skin and specialized acetylcholine receptors render it resistant or immune to venom. Besides it, mongooses will also eat insects including dragonflies, grasshoppers, mole crickets, ground beetles, earwigs and ants. It also preys on spiders, scorpions, amphibs, birds, rats and small marsupials. Non venomous snakes are also eaten, but they avoid large species. They are solitary animals, only being seen in pairs during the mating season, which starts in rainy periods. The gestation period lasts for 60 to 65 days, the female gives birth to two to four offspring. They remain with their mother until reaching seven months, during this period they learn how to find food and to hunt venomous serpents. Sexual maturity is reached within ten months and they have a lifespan of 12 years. Etoeunee, or lemur mongoose (Mongoz lemur) Order:Carnivora Family:Hespertidae Habitat:Amazon rainforest, both flooded and terra firme forests. During the entire Holocene, the introduction of animals by humans in habitats that weren’t their own was a common practice. The small Indian mongoose (Urva auropunctata) was introduced by the humans in the Caribbean island of Trinidad and in Surinam, French Guiana and Guyana in South America. This species proved to be well adapted for these areas and thrived. During the Neocene, the South American population had not only spread through the tropical areas of the continent, but had also generated a new subfamily, the Austrohespertinae, the South American mongooses. In the canopy of the Amazon rainforest, the etoeunee appeared. Its name is formed by two words of the Urarina language, etoe - Aotus nigriceps, unee - Bassaricyon alleni. The etoeunee ranges in size from 41 to 64 cm long plus a tail of 52 to 75 cm. They have a round head, large eyes, a short, pointed snout, short limbs and a slender body. Their forelimbs are modified, with dexterous fingers that allow them to better grasp the tree branches and that give remarkable manipulatory abilities rival those of primates. Their fluffy tail helps it maintain balance while moving through trees. It is also capable of jumping between branches. They can rotate its ankles and feet 180°, making it easy for the animal to run backward over tree limbs and climb down trees headfirst. They are sexually dimorphic, with the males back, tail paws being black; nape and crown dark brown, muzzle and ears are red, the nose, chest and belly are white. The females's back is light brown; the tail, nose, muzzle, crown, ears, paws, shoulders, front legs are black; cheeks, chest, belly are wight. The males are also larger than the females. This species is diurnal and spends the day foraging. They are herbivorous, eating fruits, berries, leaves, edible roots, may be nuts and mushrooms. Occasionally they eat sweet Hemiptera.. Etoeunee will visit mineral licks to consume clay, supplementing their diet with nutrients and minerals. Etoeunee are monogamous animals, living in pairs for the rest of their lives. They breed throughout the year, giving birth to a litter of two to five small babies after a gestation of 16 weeks. The female gives birth to them inside a rock crevice or a hollowed tree. They are hairless at first, and open their eyes after about a week. The parents take care of them for up to one year, occasionally also longer. They start foraging on their own at the age of four months, but compete for food brought back to them after that age. Etoeunee have a lifespan of 18 years.

ëÿãóøêà: JOrnitho Interesting moongooses!

ìåäâåäü: Interesting animals!

wovoka: JOrnitho ïèøåò: Karumboi (Karumboi serpentophagus) Good mongoose, but you remember we wanted to make him like Galidia elegans (also red, only with ginger head, but not only with a striped tail, but and in contrast to Galidia elegans with a completely striped body (with black stripes). JOrnitho ïèøåò: Etoeunee, or lemur mongoose (Mongoz lemur) Order:Carnivora Family:Hespertidae Habitat:Lowland and montane forests of the Atlantic coast of South America, tree canopy. Jornitho, sorry, but you make a mistake. Etoeunee, or lemur mongoose (Mongoz lemur) we wanted to settle to Amazonia region, we specially making him for the chapter about the black jaguape. JOrnitho ïèøåò: However, they’ll occasionally feed on invertebrates, eggs and chicks. And I wanted to make him mongoose looking like lemur, with lemur way of life and diet: absolutely herbivorous, eating fruits, berries, leaves, edible roots, may be nuts and mushrooms. And no invertebrates, eggs and chicks. Invertebrates may be only sweet Hemiptera. It must predominantly lead an arboreal lifestyle. It will be like in the same time the opposite and the analogue of Madagascar Eulemur mongoz - mongoose lemur. It will be with a fluffy tail that helps it maintain balance while moving through trees. It could also be capable of jumping between branches. I wanted him look absolutely the same as his Madagascar analogue Both sexes are born with white beards, but become obviously dimorphic around six weeks of age when the males develop red beards and red cheeks. When want to describe this mongoose I wanted make them such color: the males back, tail paws are black; nape and crown dark brown, muzzle and ears are red, the nose, chest and belly are white, the females back - light brown; the tail, nose, muzzle, crown, ears, paws, shoulders, front legs are black; cheeks, chest, belly are wight. The main enemy Ipochereu. please make this additions to the both descriptions! And the relative species to lemur mongoose - Kuatirana-aguara (kuatirana - squirell in guarani, aguara - racoon in tupi) or squirell mongoose (Squirrel honey&nectar-eating mongoose), we decided to settle it in your Marvelous forest.

JOrnitho: wovoka ïèøåò: please make this additions to the both descriptions! Ok. I'll make these changes.

wovoka: JOrnitho ïèøåò: Ok. I'll make these changes. JOrnitho, thank you very much! Excuse me, if I'm making too much adviñes! I want to tell you, that you are making very good and professional descriptions! P.S. I have written a draft of a chapter about south of Appalachian mountains where I used three your birds https://sivatherium.borda.ru/?1-6-1692190737941-00000300-000-10001-0#004 https://sivatherium.borda.ru/?1-6-1692189237620-00000300-000-10001-0#005 https://sivatherium.borda.ru/?1-6-1692189237630-00000300-000-10001-0#006 Sorry, but the text in Russian again.

JOrnitho: Hi! Finally got some free time and I'll be around more times. I read articles about invasive fish species in South America and had some ideas: Arapaima sp.: This one became a pest in several rivers, alteady being found in the São Francisco river and several others in the interior of São Paulo state both in Brazil. I thought that these populations could evolve into new species that are different from the ancestor. Maybe even being smaller. Pangasianodon hypophtalmus: it's found in rivers of Northeastern Brazil. Possibly fled from farms. Tilapia: also found in several rivers, including in the sea of the Brazilian coast. Maybe a oceanic genus could be endemic to South America's coast. Any specialist in fishes that could help me organize these ideas?



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